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The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« on: January 23, 2010, 02:09:54 AM »
this is mostly a test, for myself...

just to see if this 'direct link' via box.net would work, and then to try and stump you guys....see if you can guess whether a clip is ...a-drums or e-drums or what sound source, or whatever.... i don't know...check it out....remember I suck at improving drum parts and especially at mic'g and recording drums  :D

example one:
http://www.box.net/shared/static/sgas7nv1rb.mp3

example two:
http://www.box.net/shared/static/0tjoxpyolx.mp3

example three:
http://www.box.net/shared/static/zr17jrhst0.mp3



« Last Edit: January 23, 2010, 02:05:17 PM by gmbydmit »

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2010, 11:39:37 AM »
This is a great idea Tim.We have audio links scattered all over these threads.If your thinking like me,we can post audio from various modules  & software,& have it in 1 location for comparison.And links to manufacture's demos.Or our own demos/songs.

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2010, 02:05:42 PM »
BUMP

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2010, 03:48:59 PM »
Ha ha,Tim.You want to 'mess with our brains' ! ???  I'll will reply back,but by secret ballot.  8) Otherwise,everyone would copy my 'correct' answers.  ::)

Will my 'golden ears' be fooled ? Wouldn't be the first time. I told someone the sounds were Rland - they said I was wrong - Boss .  Guess what - Boss IS Rlnd ! It's their budget line. Those may have been R sounds,after all.Whatever.I wonder if the guy remembers that ? I never said anything about it.

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2010, 04:00:27 PM »
This is a good idea.  OK, so are we guessing via PM as Orb suggested? 

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2010, 05:10:12 PM »
What do you think,Tim ?   

This example isn't for module comparison purposes,although we can include that.It's more like Tim's mystery idea.

I've got a mystery song for you guys.What instruments/sound sources are used in this version of this song ? There are 5 tracks.Some cheezier than others.  :D

http://www.box.net/shared/pkeykxmliu

Chime in or send me a message - it all works.

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2010, 11:51:06 PM »
ORB-Meister!
that was cool, man.

first thoughts...drum machine, keys, guitar....like the bass guitar is actually from a synth or module, guitar (actual legit) guitar, keys....just a guess....I couldn't tell ya what sound source though..

not much of a mystery idea...oh, ok, yeah it's a mystery idea...
Seriously though...the box.net mp3 player on facebook kinda embeds nicely, where as it won't here at the AM forum though (that was the main reason for the experiment....to see how it looked visually here on the forum...well, then the other idea just kinda jumped in there...just trying new ideas to shake things up a bit....make it more interactive

sorry, I know example 3 is really bad.... ;D

wonder what Vin's opinion will be...?? :)

p.s. Dave and Orb are both correct

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2010, 04:08:56 PM »
gmbydmit, your links work! :D  First time I've had anything work from box.net.  Orb, yours didn't... :(

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2010, 05:23:26 PM »
Tim commented...so I think he used the link.But it didn't work for plj. (?)

I don't know why.Tim turned me on to this boxnet deal & at first ,I had a couple of wrong settings for sharing.I thought I had it down now.Tim got me straightened out ,earlier.But why did he get it & not you ? I'll double check the settings.I have to find a different computer for verifying - it knows if it's me,so it lets me in. (I think).

I have a bunch of links now,into boxnet.The Santa band,old live covers,others,too.The latest one did have a different look on the player it pulled up.

Tim,do you play or download out of boxnet ? Both ? Yours pulls up the player,right ? Forum people let me know if/how it works for you.Let me know if it doesn't work,please.Tim's demos have always worked for me.Some day,I'll be a computer expert, like Tim.He is always humble,but he's got it goin on.
He does videos,his LS channel looks better than mine,etc,etc.  And who's NOT envious of his rig.  I want to drive up to Chicago,just to play with all his big boy toys !   ;)

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2010, 05:38:10 PM »
Ah, my flash player was b0rked...  I'll check it out, Orb.

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2010, 10:41:26 PM »
If I'm a computer expert.....we are all f___ed!  ;D

I just fumble around, and get lucky.

after you successfully upload to box.net...right click on the file...drop down menu....to 'link to this file'

when the next window opens, highlight the 'Direct Link', and that's what you paste here

More files and such to come.... :)

so far, on our challenge boy and girls, pljones is our big winner (so far he's got the closest to hitting it on the head, exactly)...and again, sorry for #3 - piss poor recording job...did it rushed, while the thought was still in my head

I do that all the time, play something that was good enough to record, and wasn't or think about it, start recording, start playing, and it sucks.... :)

Oh yeah, and if anyone cant open these links, just let me know and I'll try something else


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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2010, 09:49:55 PM »
Back to basics,gentlemen ( & ladies ? )

If any of you guys have the expansion for BFD "Andy Johns Classic Drums" ,then you've seen this.It is included in the package.

Apparently,this guy has been around for a while,in the studio.Led Zep,Blind Faith...who knows,many I'm sure.Anyway,I saw this video a while back & it's pretty awesome.In about 15 minutes,this guy can teach us years of mixing techniques.It's really ,really good information in here - I HIGHLY recommend you give it a LISTEN.

Especially at 2:14 to 3:01.  THIS SAYS IT ALL !!! NOW HEAR ME. LISTEN TO THIS GUY.You don't have to agree 100% ,& he states that fact more than once.It's what works for YOU,in the end that matters.

This part at 2:14 - is so good,I may have to link that in our cymbal thread.A lot of overlapping topics we have discussed lately are in here.

This is part 1 . There is a part 2 ,also ,that is equally as good. And there is a demo of the sounds at the end of his chat. 'did I hear some phasing on those crashes ? I'll bet it's just the transfer to YT or some crap.'

http://www.youtube.com/user/OrbVroomer#p/f/16/AP5exS6lzFk

Edit : here is the lihk to part 2 :

http://www.youtube.com/orbvroomer#p/a/f/0/MP2w3wbkpKY
« Last Edit: January 26, 2010, 09:53:36 PM by Orb Vroomer »

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 01:12:13 AM »
that my friend, was a good post!

those vids are invaluable. Thanks very much. Seriously.


Ya tryin to tell me something??....LOL....yeah, I gotta lot to learn about recording and mixing.

In my example #3, The A-Drums.. My basher set: PDP 805's -Birch Shells -  a 14" tom, a 16" tom, and a 22" Bass - all, barely tuned (obviously), wrong choice of ride (22" Sabian Neil Peart Paragon) only two mics used - a couple of cheapo (Stagg CM-5050) overheads, which were pointed straight down.

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2010, 02:05:41 PM »
This was for ALL our benefit.I knew a lot of basic techniques he discussed - but in this short video,there is a treasure trove of information.Most killer engineers don't spill these ideas so freely.I've used 2 mics on amps - never 3,though.Some way advanced stuff,& some more basic in here.He's a rocknroll guy,so (no rules) ,if your working on completely different style,you might do things HE doesn't.He points that out repeatedly.Your ears will tell you.

Fit the drum sound to the tune ! He did "When the Levee Breaks" recording.Would that drum sound work in a song by,say The Eagles ? I think not.So even within RnR,there are many different styles/approaches to the beat/sound of the drum mix - that in the context of THAT particular song must gell.We ALL know this !!

Any of you BFD guys have his expansion ?  How does it sound to you ? Like it ? He said there are 7 kits in there.These small software cos.,as compared to the big cos,seem to use these studio guys.Same with my Fab Four  - the engineers are credited.R & Y have endorsers,but it seems they are lacking input from people IN THE BIZ. Are those cos. too cheap to hire these type people ?  Is it an experienced engineer,or some college nerd with a clipboard & pocket protector ? If I'm wrong,please tell me.All I know is that soft is SO superior to hard,right now.(IMHO)

PS : Tim Your recording was decent.I could hear some phasing problems on the cymbals,probably due to multi -mic & distance issues.That was the clincher for knowing it was acoustic,for sure.The e-drums sounded darn realistic,as well.

On my Green Onions attempt - !967 Slingerland drums,sub mixed to 2 track (all I have) for drums,Sabian 20" med. ride.All else,organ,bass,muted g, Proteus.Guitar went through my Digit RP 50.It's not at all similar to the actual G part - I just wanted something in the mix,for the G part.Never learned the little guitar hook.I did this several years ago. I can play the key part better,now.

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Re: The dumping ground for various music files, etc
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2010, 03:05:19 PM »
Have to say I loved the keys but the drums were a bit flat for my liking -- maybe I'm too accustomed to a good stereo field!

I couldn't work out on Tim's #3 what was up...  It was either a triumph of engineering with an e-kit or samples, or ... well, acoustic ;).